Hey there, i miss everyone because I'm alone here..haha, here's my part, if you don't understand, just ask me, if I never reply means I don't know what's the answer. lol
About my attachment
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My delivery focus is genes. These genes can be plasmid-encoding ones or siRNA. I’m working on how efficient the tranfected cells express the genes delivered to them and also the percentage of viability. Finally a comparison is done using different cell lines and nanocarriers. Let me explain the principle first.
Principle of the Project
This lab synthesizes nano-sized cationic polymers as carriers for the genes. The polymers have nitrogen group( NH3+) which are positively charged that bind to the negatively charged phosphate group(PO4-) in the DNA. They form a transfection complex which will then be used to tranfect the cells. The uptake occurs via endocytosis. I will prepare the polymers and DNA solutions based on very confusing calculations in which I took almost a week to understand. The tranfection complexes are prepared in different conditions and pH(5&7). Conditions basically mean different nitrogen to phosphate ratio(N/P ratio: 0-40). I usually do 9-10 conditions. These are mainly done to determine the optimal concentration of the transfection complex and at what conditions do cytotoxicity occurs.
Culturing and seeding of cells
After preparing all reagents and subculturing, I will seed the cells on 24 well plates or 96-well plates depending on which cell lines. Some cell line that I handle are HepG2, HEK 293, heLa and MCF-7 & etc. On the next day, I will do gene transfection on 1 cell line. The cell must meet the desired density, thus cell counting must be done using haemocytometer. Each condition has 4-6 replicates, thus every row of plate is for 1 condition. Then I will repeat the whole thing for another pH. The cells are then incubated in the CO2 incubator for 4 hrs and then the medium are changed to stop transfection. I will then need to wait for 3 days to do analysis using MTT assay and luciferase analysis assay.
During the 3-day incubation, I will measure the zeta potential and particle size of the transfection complexes. Zeta potential basically means the surface charge of the particle. Since the cell surface are slightly –vely charged due to proteogylcans in the cell membrane, the complex must be more positive to enter the cell. However it must not be too high, because if too much complex enter the cells, cytotoxicity can occur. Apart from that, the particle size is also measured. It cannot be too large as they need to enter through the nuclear pores which are only 10nm in diameter. Both can be measured using a nanozeta and size analyzer based on different conditions and pH.
After 3 days, I can then do my analysis. I have not learnt the MTT assay procedures which is done to measure the cell viability, so I will explain about the luciferase analysis assay which can consume the whole day(seriously). This is done to determine the transfection efficiency(how many cells take up the complex). The DNA that I used for the complex is a luciferase-encoding plasmid. Cells that have been transfected will have the luciferase gene and can express the luciferase protein. The cells are then washed and lysed using lysis solution and further scrapped using pipette tips. This must be done properly as it will greatly affect the results. I took 3.5 hrs to do 4 24-well plates.
Then, I will measure the light intensity by adding substrate to the luciferase protein in the sample using the luciferase analyzer machine. A BSA standard is also done to convert the light intensity value to protein concentration. Apart from that, total protein content is also done to determine what is the percentage of luciferase protein over the total protein expressed by the cells. Both the BSA standard and total protein content are measured using 96-well plate reader.
From the beginning to the end of the experiment, I do have lots of excel sheets and graphs to plot. I should say that the steps and procedures are quite tedious and time consuming. Yet, IBN is good place for students like us because they give you the freedom to conduct any experiments you want, so long as it is within the focus area of the lab.
As you can see I did not explain about the step-by-step procedures for each phase because it is very long, so if you want to know, just send me a comment. I will blog more about result analysis and siRNA on my next post.
A brief one on LMQA
Nisha Bte Mohd Rafiq
0503254E
TG02
18 comments:
Hi Nisha!!
It seems that your experiment would take quite a long time. How many days will you take to complete the whole experiment(From the preparation of materials required to the detection of how efficient the transfected genes are expressed? What if something happens in the middle of the experiment? Do yo need to redo the experiment from the start or do you just redo the part that is wrong? And under the section of zeta potential and particle size, how do you determine the optimal conditions so that the complex can 100% enter the cell? Sorry to ask you so many questions!
Ming Boon
Tg01
0503197F
hey MINGBOON, the experiment takes only 5-6 including the 3 day incubation and is continuous, thus if there is an error, u have to redo the whole of it, that is why we are very particular in the amount of reagents we add. A slight change means a big difference. Thus, I will always double check on whatever I do.
About the zeta potential and particle size, i can never know what is the optimal condition. Only after the luciferase assay, i can determine which condition(N/P ratio) gives the highest transfection efficiency. Then i will go and check the particular condition's zeta and size. I can then compare with with other cell lines and also other polymers used, As we have many polymers used in transfection. Also, we can never get 100% enter the cell, we can only enhance the entry, that is why we are doing the project.
Hey Nisha,
Just wondering, when you perform cell culturing, do you perform in a BSC 2 cabinet or what type of hoods do IBN? You said that under "Assays for transfection efficiency and cytotoxicity & Total protein measurement" under "light intensity by adding substrate to the luciferase protein"...what type of substrate is added and once you understand luciferase analysis assay can you please update us. Thanks!See you
Eugene Wong
TG02
Hey Eugene, we use a BSL-2 cabinet, meaning it does protect the users too.
Ermm, the substrate is a modified luciferin, but i don't know exactly the full name, it's quite long i know.
And sure, once i got the results for the assay, i will post up on my next post! hehe
Hey, see you're doing research too. Sounds like a pain trying to get optimal conditions and all that incubating time.
Anyways, just to clarify, basically the gene you want to introduce into the cell lines given are carried by cationic carriers correct? Now, my question is, if that is the case, the genes transfected would exist as extra chromosomal? What are the odds (low/high) of it becoming part of the genome of the cell lines, and is that desirable, or is it intended to exist only extrachormosomally? If only extrachromosomally, would that mean the effect is only transient? If thats the case, sounds like gene theraphy very expensive...have to keep going. haha.
Sorry for all the questions, the hypothetical 'Ifs' and if my questions make no sense. As you can see, I'm befuddled by all this.
- Debra, TG02
Hey Nisha....
Just two question from me. First, you mentioned there is a need for a 3 day incubation after the transfection period right? is that 3 day incubation for allowing the cells to further proliferate? Secondly, you said that you are allowed to conduct any experiment so long as you are doing it with regards to your task right? Then how would you know what experiment to conduct and the protocols are provided or self-thought?
Johanna, TG02
Hey Debra,ya tedious process i shud say..hahaha
erm its not extrachromosomal, it muz be integrated into the genome in the nucleus. It will either enter the nucleus through the nuclear pores, or during cell division. However, the problem is, the process of bringing the gene into the nucleus is the main problem as some cells will not take up the gene, or the gene will be degraded in the cytoplasm..
That is why we are synthesizing nanocarriers, that can transport the genes to the nucleus.
Hence, once the cell has the gene, its no longer transient. :)
hey Johanna! hmm yes exactly, to allow the cells to grow.
Frankly speaking the only protocol we are given is for seeding cells. The rest, we usually see someone doing and we follow.
And yes, we can do our experiment on whatever we want, so long as its under gene or drug delivery, you can decide what conditions, cell lines, and carriers u want to use. We can actually design our own carriers(if we r smart enough) for the gene or try something stupid..hehe..if the results good then tell the mentor, if not, just keep quiet. haha lol
hey nisha.. From what i have read from your blog.. I believe that you should not allow any cytotoxicity to occur? Am i right to say that?? If thats the case then what would you all do if theres any occurance of cytotoxicity??
Hope your doing great lady! take care =)
Vinodhini
TG02
Hey vino, yeah we only allow minimal level of cytotoxicity, if lets say it is cytotoxic enough, we will reject the carrier that we designed. Mainly because, the carriers are the main cause for cytotoxicity.
So try some other carriers! :)
oh, i get it now, thanks a bunch =)
Good luck in transfecting!
- Debra, TG02
Hello! XDDD
I would like to know what are HepG2, HEK 293, heLa and MCF-7? As in For example are they human cell lines or from some animals etc.
The RFID card sounds cool XD
Thanks!
Charmaine Tan~ TG01
Hey charmaine,
Initially i thought the RFID card was to track me, if i'm not doing my work..hehe lol
Aniwae, these cell lines are commonly used in labs for gene expression.
HEK 293: transformed human embryonic kidney cells, and contain adenovirus
HepG2: cells from hepatocellular carcinoma
MCF-7: human breast cancer cell line
HeLa: cervival cancer cells
Hello nisha.
I would like to know apart from the cell culture being performed in the biosafety cabinet? Do the MTT assay and the luciferase analysis assay needs to be done under sterile conditions??? Was wondering if contaminations will affect the results of the MTT and luciferase analysis assay.
Najib (0503217B)
Alright thanks for that!! =)
Happy workinG!
Vino
Bothe must actually be done in the cabinet, but for luciferase assay, since the cells will be lysed, and also the content will be spun down to coolect the debris at the bottom of the tube, so it doesn't really matter..I usually do luciferase assay on the bench..
:))
hihi nisha
can u explain what is MTT assay and luciferase analysis assay. what does it analysis?
Juexiu
TG02
Hi Juexiu,
I shall make it short and simple.
MTT assay is to check how many living cells are there after tranfection, as some might die after transfection.
Luciferase analysis assay is to check how many cells take up the genes delivered to them.
Hope this explains :))
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